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What is the song on the promo for this episode?

I agree with you guys the Jamie/Q scenes were awesome especially the rap. And the Naley scenes are so adorable. I agree with Sarah on how Brooke sprung it on Owen from out of nowhere but he still should have spoken to her properly about it. And Mia I agree with you on how Brooke enjoys the thrill of the Chase. I agree with you on how Brooke and Lucas are good as friends but I just think they fit together better than Peyton and Lucas. And Jackie I agree with you on how Peyton needs a new guy in her life and bring back Jake. can't wait till next week for the new ep and your podcast

I know I love Owen as well. However, I do love where the episode is going of not knowing what will happen with Peyton and Lucas and her record label and Brook and her baby. In addition, I love the music on the show from day one. I love the last singer Jackson Waters. I just found him on a music blog called The Shuffle http://theshuffle.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/jackson-waters-on-one-tree-hill/

I loved this weeks episode! I felt like it redeemed itself after last weeks waste of time but there were definitely some things that annoyed me.

The N/H scenes with Jamie were so adorable. I loved them. The first scenes how Nathan and Haley thought of Jamie and then Jamie put his foot between them, that was so cute! Such a nice family moment and we haven't really seen that this season.

I know you guys hate Lucas but I love him! Especially his scenes with Jamie. Jamie makes everyone better. And when they hugged .. ohmygosh.

I've hated Peyton for so long now but this episode, she didn't annoy me. It was a nice change. I love that she saw Lucas with Skills at the end and just kept walking and decided to go in the other direction. I think that was really mature of her. I agree with you guys that she should start dating. For 3 years she's been moping about Lucas and all that and she's been so caught up in it that she hasn't done anything to make us like her. Whingey Peyton is so much worse than art/music lover Peyton. And I love that she's concerntrating on her friendships right now. Haley, Brooke and Peyton were such good friends and were always there for each other but this whole Lucas thing made it all a bit awkward. Of course, for Brooke - she dated Lucas and for Haley - Lucas is her best friends AND she loved Lindsey so it would've been really hard to keep the friendship going.

I love the Brooke/baby storyline but I'm really glad it isn't permanent. I think she'll be a great mum someday but right now - she should just live and enjoy life while she's young. And it was so cute how she bought all of those toys but she didn't let go of the purple monkey the entire time - it was really cute. I loved the Lucas/Brooke scene where Brooke says "Do you think she'll like the purple monkey?" and Lucas says "I think she's going to love the girl that gives it to her". That was really sweet and just made me love B/L even more.

I was soooo angry with Quentin for what he said to Skills and Nathan. It would've taken so much courage for Nathan to go back to that court and I don't think he could've been a bigger jackass. Then again, I felt really sorry for him when it came to the crying scene at the end. Still, there's no need to lash out at people that are just trying to help. If he left that cast on in the first place, he would've been better by now anyways! So it's his own fault if you ask me.

That was really interesting about what you said about Skill's and a drinking problem. I hadn't even thought of that! Honestly, I think that would be a bit of a stretch if they decided that Skills would have a problem. He's only 22 (or something like that) and young guys DO drink a lot when they have just turned 21.

I was upset that Owen didn't actually go and see Brooke and have a proper conversation about everything. They could have had a mature conversation where they say what they are feeling but noooo.. Brooke is yelling on the phone. I was happy to see Chase back! I think that she suits Chase better than Owen. =]

What the hell happened to Rachel? I know she left with the money but what happened after that?

Sooooo excited to see Deb come back! I missed her and her comedic scenes. It will be interesting next week with the clown and Dan. :P

Hope this isn't too long.. <3

First of all - give them a break, you don't have to know or get Brooke to see that she's behaving ridiculous. I mean she wants a baby but the first thing she thinks about in the morning is herself and that she has to pee...than she buys a ton of things (for a girl who will have her own cloths btw) but not those she actually needs...and I also didn't like that she said: whatever. I'm having a baby...maybe it was Brooke-like but it doesn't mean it was nice.

N/J/H - they are a cute family. :)

Lucas should do more to get Lindsey back...I mean he visited Lindsey once after a month and thinks that's enough...? hello? but well Lucas is the passive guy, it's not about what he says, it's what he does and basically it's doing nothing. ;)

Owen - how on earth did Brooke think that he would want a baby...a guy she almost kissed, well they screwed this storyline totally...and then Chase, no offence but I don't like him...and goes behind the back of his friends to Brooke, great...

Brucas - they had a cute scene as friends but IMO Chad looked at Sophia and not at Brooke, at least that was my impression.

Mouth - don't like him that much but honestly who would turn down a job for a girl he doesn't know that much? and I also didn't like that he told her she was perfect...I mean it didn't fit into the scene, I felt like, only virgins are perfect...

Keep it going girls, love to listen to you!

Oh and Deb is back! :)

The thing that Mouth said about Millicent being perfect, when he said that I thought they were harkening back to Mouth in high school. He was always the virgin boy and when he slept with Shelly that was such a big deal for him, that it makes sense. I feel like that would be perfect for him because it's like she values the same things that he did.

And I really do applaud the show for making a female character that isn't all sexed up all the time. She dresses appropriately, she acts appropriately, and she's OK with that. A lot of the show, I think, is spent with the characters doing "bad" things (not to offend, but you know what I'm getting at) and making it seem like it's all OK and not "wrong" (like they had a real need for the DWnotI car and all that), that it's refreshing to see someone who isn't so over the top doing all the "hip" things just because that's what people her age seem to do now; it's refereshing in the writing to see them create a character outside the realm of what they have done in the past. Millicent is the anti-Rachael, maybe even a bit the anti-Brooke, and I love her and the show for that.

I disagree with you Anonymous, I am a Brucas/Brooke fan and although I do not agree with this podcast they have their own opinion and they're still really fun to listen to. We can understand Brooke selfishness because we think she deserve to be selfish after everything she has done for her own friends, and Brooke cares even though she doesn't show it and obviously if her friends love her with the way she acts they love the way she acts.

This episode was great, I like the BL scene, I like that Peyton wasn't so let me go follow Lucas around and try to comfort him and Lucas wasn't that bad either this episode. It was great seeing Deb back, she rocks.

Also one more thing, I don't care if the girls bash Brooke or not because it's just their opinions. We love Brooke as her fans so in our eyes she can do no wrong but in unbiased eyes she can, they bash Peyton and we don't say anything really so I can't blame them for their opinions. Still love Brooke though and I think she deserve to be selfish and Angie is her way of being selfish.

I don't want Owen back or Chase because they are annoying but I bet they will bring Owen stupid a** back and they better not.

Good Podcast, can't wait for the next one.

Thanks, Thanks, Thanks for no Peyton hate! - It was getting old. I agree Peyton was very classy and mature this episode.
I loved Peyton, Haley and Brooke this episode. They were fun and sweet with each other. Especially glad for Peyton and Haley scenes!!
Brooke can be a little selfish at times and she was so excited, but, that is quintessential Brooke.
I wanted to smack Q, too.
Nathan didn't break his back, he had nerve damage.
Jamie and Chester, LOL.
Lucas wasn't so irritating this ep. Glad for no LL this ep, thanks so much!!! I hope next week is the last of those scenes.
Yay, Deb's back!
The whore double-standard bugs me, too.
I MISS OWEN!! He's good for Brooke. I agree that BL are really good as friends.

I have to say I find the whole baby storyline absurd. What kind of adoption agency gives someone a sick child as a 'trial run' to see how they do. Come on, are people actually believing this? Brooke works full time running her own fashion empire and she is single! What exactly is she going to do with this baby during her working day? Are they that stuck for a storyline for Brooke that they have to give her an instant baby. Brooke fans have always been the more intense kind but surely even they can't find this enjoyable - the entire thing is a joke. Motherhood is the most demanding and exhausting job that there is, you suddenly have someone in your life who's needs and wants will always come before your own, it requires a level of maturity and selflessness that the show has not shown 22 year old Brooke Davis to possess yet.

You know, its funny...

Brooke/BL fans love you girls when you're not attacking Brooke/BL but as soon as you mention something you don't like about their faves LOOK OUT!

Like I said, funny...

YES! Bring Jake back for Peyton! Build on the Brooke & Lucas friendship like in season 2, and put them back together!!!

I hated Q... and then they had to go and make me feel bad for him!

Naley and Jamie and DEB!!!!! YAY! And I love that Haley's recording again!

I kind of feel bad for Dan! He looks like he is regretting his mistakes and truly seeing how it ruined his life and his memory.

I disagree about getting annoyed with Brooke. If you were getting a baby and someone told you they were recording an album, I think that you would say a baby is a much bigger deal. Plus it's Brooke! She's always been that way, and that's why we love her!

I love that when Brooke needed to know that she was going to be OK, the first person she turned to was Lucas! I love that he made her feel like she was going to be OK. And he remembered the purple monkey! And he said "I think she's gonna love the girl who gives it to her" very sweetly and looked at her fondly! I don't think Lucas is truly over anyone he was with.

THANK GOD that Owen is GONE! They apparently weren't even that serious anyway since they never kissed! I'm glad he left! But I don't see how taking care of a sick child for a few days/week would scare him away forever. Oh well. Better for me!

I thought Chase's "call me if you need anything... new carpets... a husband" line was cute!

I can't wait for Lindsey to come back! Lucas is CLEARLY in love with her! And I'm proud of Peyton for SERIOUSLY trying to let him go instead of just talking about it!

Hey, I statrted listening to you guys pod casts about 2 weeks ago and I gotta say I really love 'em. I keep looking foward to the next one! Just listened to the latest one, gotta agree with the whole ridiculous Brooke plot line.

Anyways I got a question for yous because each time a new episode comes out I think the exact same thing over and over, so...

Right I know you guys are currently watching season 1 and Sarah has already seen everything. Now I love the 5th season, bloody brilliant, but I can't help but feel that this is no longer Lucas's show. He was the main character, and now I feel like we dont have a clue what Lucas actually thinks much at all this season. Don't get me wrong he's a complete dumbass right now! So what do you guys think of the lack of Lucas right now especially since you guys are watching Season 1 where pretty much everythin is about him?

Anyways thanks alot and keep up the gd work, because I look forward to downloading your podcasts n laughing at them on the bus in the mornings!

Thanks, Pip x

hey,
although I agree that the Brooke-baby story line seems a little far fetched, and probably the result of the additional episodes granted, i think everyone should see how the story line plays out before judging Brooke's actions. I've learnt a long time ago to accept One Tree Hill story lines, regardless of how realistic they are supposed to be. Personally, I think that Brooke would be a great mother,and because her mother never gave her the unconditional love she sorely wanted, Brooke thinks she will find it in a baby. I am not sure whether the temporary custody idea is best for Brooke but i am eager to find out how it pans out. I hope through this process Brooke realizes that her friends give her that unconditional love that she craves.
Anyway, keep up the great podcasts, i am always interested in the opinions of each podcaster, even if i don't always agree with it.

I am a huge, HUGE LP fan. But I feel that for them to ever get back together, Peyton does need to find someone else. Not just for the sake of it, but just because it doesn't feel right or healthy for her to just be sitting around waiting for Lucas. She needs at least try and move on, which (like you guys) was happy to see she was.

What really still annoys me. Like really badly is that Peyton didn't even say no to his propsoal, she said SOMEDAY, on top of that how much she loved him.

Lindsey actually LEFT HIM AT THE ALTER, yet he was like "I'll wait for you" blah BLAH BLAH.
What the hell? And yes I know that the reason she left him wasn't because she didn't love him. But neither was the reason Peyton did. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!
Have you guys really thought about that?

And I agree with the whole Brooke thing. And I laughed when you guys were saying that because I knew how much hate you were going to get for that.

Anyway, great podcast. Can't wait to hear your next one. And also 1x04?
:D

Another great podcast I think. I need to agree at the Brooke thing. I love her character, but this whole baby storyline is ... I hate it as well as Sarah. I would go this far and say that's a little bit out of character ... and Brooke with a baby ... she is just 22!!! Why now?
Owen - I didn't like that guy very much. And now I hope he is gone for good. Don't need him back. Chase on the other side, I would love to see back in Brooke's life. He is just a sweet and nice guy and for me the boy that Brooke needs in her life.
The Naley scenes in this episode were very cute - love them. As well as the scene between Lucas and Peyton. Was good to see them as friends again. And YES another agree ... I totally LOVED Peyton this week.
In the end, I would like to say, I love your Podcast girls ... keep going!!! xD
By the way ... I know that you can't make a Podcast of all last four seasons ... but I would like to hear a Podcast about 3x16 ... Would be interesting what you girls have to say there. Hope you keep that idea in mind.

Hey, folks. I just wanted to follow up on a couple of things.

First off, don't firebomb Jackie or Mia. I was the one was most displeased with Brooke this week. They are blameless.

Second: I was being a smartass when I said I hated Brooke. I like her as a character. I think she's got a lot to recommend her. I did NOT like how she was acting this episode, and that's what I was reacting to.

Look, I hate the baby storyline, and I fear what's going to happen with it. The adoption agency is hideously negligent giving Brooke a sick kid to look after without first checking to see if she has any clue as to what it takes to actually care for a child. RIGHT NOW, she doesn't have what it takes. I'm not saying she's not a kind and loving person, I'm just saying she has no clue how to deal with a kid. If you get pregnant, you have several months to do some research and get ready for the idea of having this little person completely dependent on you. If you adopt, it usually takes a REALLY long time and you've got people that make sure you know what you're doing. Brooke is having this special-needs kid dropped in her lap, and she's way out of her depth.

They made it clear at the beginning of the episode – Brooke is the first thing she thinks about when she wakes up in the morning. For Naley, it’s their kid – and it has to be, at least until the kid is able to take care of his or herself. It’s going to be a hell of a shock to the system for Brooke to suddenly find out she’s not the center of her life when that kid is there, and I worry that the kid will not get the care she needs.

I’ve got friends who are single parents. I’ve got friends who are married parents. I’ve got nieces and a nephew, and I care for them for days at a time when I go home. Trust me – loving a child with your whole heart is great, but it isn’t enough. I love my new niece like crazy, but I had to run away after she’d been crying for an hour straight and I’d fed her and changed her and made sure she was warm and burped her and walked with her and tried to let her sleep and nothing I was doing was working and she couldn’t tell me what was wrong and there was nothing I could DO. It’s terrifying.

Same thing with the “Oh who cares, I’m getting a BABY!” line… Yeah, I get it, that’s Brooke, and it’s cute and funny. But Brooke-the-mom can’t do that. Brooke-the-mom has to put herself second for an infant. I don’t know if Brooke can do that yet.

I’m not trying to say Brooke will NEVER be a good mother – I think maybe someday she will. But right now? She’s not ready.

As for Owen – boy, I hate how they handled that, too. I really wish they’d been able to have a conversation, and I think if it hadn’t been for the writers’ strike and the way schedules got messed up, they would have. If my boyfriend announced he was bringing home a baby tomorrow, I’d freak out – and I’ve known this guy for a while. For Brooke to spring that on Owen, who’s only known her for a little while, was insane. For her to accuse him of acting like a baby because he has reservations about having a baby is nuts.

Look, I like Brooke – she’s smart and funny and has this iron will when she needs to. She definitely has changed and matured since the first season. Hell, she survived Victoria, and had the strength to FIRE HER MOM, which is devastating. She’s been great friend to Peyton and Haley. She rocks. But she shouldn’t get a sick baby now.

You can say that I’m taking this all too seriously – it’s just a TV show. But I think these characters deserve to act like THEMSELVES, you know? And the Brooke I like wouldn’t treat a baby as an accessory, or a thing to make her feel better about her own life. She’d take it seriously. This Brooke, in this story, isn’t doing that.

I already posted earlier but I just wanted to give you three another shout out to say thanks for doing the podcasts. Whether or not we all agree with your opinions, it's way fun to hear a fresh outlook on things, especially for a show we all love this much. Cause seriously, if we weren't as into the storylines people wouldn't be as passionate about the show and no one would be interested in taking time to listen. If people always felt the same way about what was going on then the writers would be doing something wrong and there would never be any development. Plus, you kept me entertained on a recent long plane ride =)

I'm also loving you guys podcasting your way through S1. It's definitely come a long way since then and it's nice to know that we're at least going to get a S6.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIA!
"So, I just want to let you all know, we are listening to you, and we don't want you to feel in any way that we don't take your opinions seriously, but I hope you can also think of us as three individuals who don't necessarily have the same opinions too.".

I think you guys are totally awesome and I am a huge fan. Please don't take the comments to hard, OTH fans are very hard core.

I definetely hear you, and honestly even if I don't always agree, I LOVE the Podcasts. So thank you to y'all. And again HAPPY BDAY!Party Hard!

I love the podcasts from season 1! It's so fun revisitng old episodes. Is it possible to post them more often? After you finish season 1 you should move on to the rest of the seasons. You guys are hilarious!!

I dont like the whole Brooke is getting a kid...i mean why can't she just find the right guy and have it with him? I wanna see brooke with Owen...or possibly Chase...but the baby thing is just werid

Peyton is a great person, and she loves lucas and she is being mature about it...but she is not going to just move on...i mean i like the whole "leyton" and i want it to happen but i do feel like the writers have put peyton in a rut...she either needs to be with lucas or get herself together and being with someone else...I ove peyton and hate to see her this way

I love that haley and nathan are reconnecting...i'd love to see more of that

whats with the hating on brooke? i really don't think you guys understand the character of brooke. you all really need to watch the rest of the seasons.

brooke has matured so much throughout the show, and she is def. not selfish.
i think she would make a great mother, since she has such a great heart.
and the whole owen thing...it's not like theyre serisouly dating, and brooke is asking him to be a father or something. she wants a baby, and i really think that has nothing to do with owen. they're just not so serious, that she needs his permission or whatever.

and the scene with haley/peyton with brooke saying "..who cares..."
that's just brooke, she didn't mean it in a bad at all. that's just how she is, it doesnt mean she doesnt care b/c she does, she is a very caring person. and haley and peyton know that, and it was just a little humour in the show....not such a big deal.

i pretty much disagree with everything you guys say about brooke. peyton on the other hand...
yeah, she needs to stop pining over lucas. i think she should just focus on her career, and if she meets a guy, than thats cool too.

Can i just say that i totally do not understand where the Brooke bashing came from you girls.

Seriously,you think Brooke is selfish and childish??? She is the most considerate and unselfish person on the show. The probem is that you have not seen the previous seasons and do not understad the characters well enough to make that statement. And please, the one thing this show doesnt have is continuity- just watch season 2 and 3 and then u will understand what i am talking about. There are still things that have never been explained and wtf moments.

The brucas scene was def a mention and was really heartfelt. There was no need to have the attitude you guys had about it and there are still a hell of a lot of Brucas fans out there for whch it meant a lot.

Regardng Owen please. Just cos you think he is hot doesn not mean he was good and was in the right. Let me ask you something? If a guy broke u with one of your girlfriends like that would you still be singing his praises??? I think not!!!

I think the only thing i agreed with was Peyton and her walking away from Lucas- its about time cnsidering the stuff she has done in the past and yes bring Jake back!!!!!

Hey great podcast! I am definitely a fan. Looking at replies already from Brooke fans looks like you ladies angered them, lol. Sara you mentioned you were angry with Brooke for being selfish, but I have to say that is who she really is. Most of season five we have not seen the confident, real Brooke because of her mom, Victoria. So you sympathized with her, but hate to break it to you Brooke is not really nice. Now before you Brooke fans pounce on me, that is part of her charm. She has a lot of facets to her character, and a lot having to do with her pretty much raising herself in high school and then going on to start up her own company. You have to be a pretty strong and confident person maybe even a little selfish to accomplish all that. “You have to believe in your self, because no one else is going to believe for you.” And after knowing Brooke for a while, I think Peyton and Haley know that is just how Brooke is and not to take her seriously or personally. I will say one more thing, Sophia was interviewed about her character Brooke saying she was totally opposite from her character and that Brooke was way more outrageous and forward than she is herself. I hope people will separate the actress from the character and actually watch the scenes with an unbiased eye.

Sorry guys just had to get that off my chest. Mia you mentioned skills and I agree I think there is definitely a story line coming up with him. Whether it’s with alcohol or with him finding out what he wants to do for the rest of his life, I don’t know. But I am definitely intrigued and I hope he gets a bigger story line because of it. The Naley and Jamie scenes were adorable and I am so excited that Haley is singing again.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the scene with Mouth and Millicent, when Mouth said something to the effect that skills thought he killed Chester but it turned out that he was just a sound sleeper. I thought that was so funny! Well that was just my opinion, and every one is entitled to their own but I hope fans of One Tree Hill can agree to disagree. Peace.

Wow. I would much rather see Brooke with the baby than with Owen...its not even close.

I think it is pretty pathetic the way Owen acted. Brooke wasn't asking Owen to be a father to the baby. The baby is only temporary. Its really funny how condenscending Owen was in the previous episodes about Brooke's maturity level and lifestyle but he is the one who goes running when Brooke tries to a really great thing.

It amazes me how anyone can call what Brooke is doing selfish. She is taking a child that would basically have no chance at living a long happy life...and giving them that chance. She is helping a baby and getting nothing in return. That sounds pretty unselfish if you ask me.

Its obviious that you girls have not watched the previous seasons if you actually think this show is good with continuity...its terrible! That is one of the major flaws with the show.

I didn't really get what yall where trying to get at when you compared Mouth and Millie having a long distance relationship to Naley when Haley when on tour. Haley and Nathan both stopped wearing their wedding rings and Nathan actually even signed annulment papers...it took a LONG time for them to work through their problems.

It would help if yall at least read the episode summaries from the previous seasons.

haha..this weeks podcast was funny ...thanks for the laughs!!

we thought it was a good episode all-in all ...but we have a HUUUGGGEE problem with Mouth as well... we mean...why are girls falling like flies for this guy?????

He doesn't really have a direct storyline too...looks like Mark & Co are just keeping him in to...keep him in...
Seriously, we have yet to see the first scene about Mouth that actually makes sense to us...one that actaully fits into the rest of the storylines...

useless character if you ask us...

but that's just us venting.

hugs
twinzz
BELGIUM

Ok, so since it's my birthday today (and I am getting old) I want to leave the office on a happy note and calm the board down a little and clear a few things up before I grab margaritas.

Firstly, we love you all, even those of you who are angry with us for not agreeing with you, or not seeing things the same way. I can assure you though, we're coming into all of this with an open mind. At this point, and I can only speak for myself, I'm not a shipper of anyone on the show except for Naley - because, how could I not? That doesn't mean that I wouldn't be open to a Brucas or a Leyton romance...

The Brooke baby storyline for me is just unrealistic in an everyday you, me, and everyone we know kind of way (and not the Miranda July movie). I think that with Brooke's personality and the fact that she's financially stable, she can TOTALLY end up being a great mother in the scope of the show. Heck, she can do ANYTHING with a team of writers behind her! Sometimes we have a tendency to take things a little too seriously when we discuss and that's why we go on the tangent of not liking certain storylines. But, we all love Brooke!

The thing is, because we love you all, I know we take your comments really seriously. I am not an expert at the show, but I do try to pay close attention to what's happening because I really do enjoy it! Sometimes I feel just like you feel like we aren't paying close enough attention to the show, some of you may not be listening as closely to the podcasts. When one person says something it is somehow assumed that we've all said it. I don't think there's been an episode yet where all three of us have agreed on everything!

So, I just want to let you all know, we are listening to you, and we don't want you to feel in any way that we don't take your opinions seriously, but I hope you can also think of us as three individuals who don't necessarily have the same opinions too.

Holla if ya hear me.

I realy strongly disagree with the Brooke comments on this weeks podcast. she is definatly not being selfish at all with this storyline, in fact its the complete opposite. And about her buying all the toys, and saying she wasnt ready, she is going to love that child with her whole heart, that should be enough.

The show hasnt been good with Continutity, seeing as Brooke and Lucas were in love all through seasons 2, 3 and the beginning of 4, and yet their past is completly disregarded and forgot, so i dont agree with that part either.

I agree with the Quentin part though, he really annoyed me with the way he treated Skills and Nathan, but i also had a little sympathy at the end.

I do not miss Owen one bit! im glad hes gone, and i dont get why people are so into him and Brooke being "Love" when we have only seen them together for like a couple episodes!

And i agree with the "BRING BACK JAKE" we need to get Jake back!

I'm not sure you ladies understand the characters well enough to be making comments about them being selfish. In the event that you decide to sit down and watch every episode of every season of One Tree Hill the sudden realization of just how wrong you have been in so many of your pod casts will dawn on you. Because when you do watch the entire show you will see that Brooke has grown the most out of every character on the show. She is not a childish selfish over zealous woman as you've said, but a kind caring person who's entire character is built on self sacrifice.
Selflessness is Brooke Davis' trade mark. The only reason you ladies are watching the show you are is because of Brooke's selflessness. She let Lucas go out of selflessness so that her friend could have a chance at a love half as great as the one she had with him. She has given everything up so that the people around her the people she loves can be happy and safe.

As far as Owen he is a selfish child and nothing no matter what the situation warrants someone to just drop out of the life of someone they care about.

The only thing I do agree with you ladies on is the fact that Peyton needs another love interest. I was so proud of Peyton when she walked away from Lucas it was such an amazing moment, the only real growth I have seen from her character in QUITE some time. I think everyone would be VERY VERY happy if Jake was brought back.

Okay so I usually always agree with you girls but this podcast definetly seemed like it was a "Lets bash brooke " thing .I mean I get you might not like the storyline or whatever but is there really cause to bash the charactr as much? I honestly dont understand why the storyline bothers people , I dont believe she doesnt know what shes getting into as she does and as I have watched her character through the seasons I can understand why she would have made this decision and as the storyline progresses I think were gonna see even more growth in the character of brooke ,it takes a special type of person to even think of doing something like that and the fact she is says just how amazing the character is and I think the scene where shes on the phone to peyton/haley was funny its typical brooke lol she didnt mean it in a bad way its just the way the character is sometimes and was a funny moment .

I wanted to ask about the brucas scene ,why was it said not to mention them? Have you all become lpers or something?lol . Theres a lot of blers who listen to your podcast and have always thought a lot of what you said as you always seem to be fair when it comes to bl not like others… so wow that was completely a turnabout today and rather sad.I love brucas and the Bl fans always will and its kinda sad how you don’t want to talk about them,I don’t know if it was just as ajoke but as I say that was disapointing ,plus the Bl scene was amazing this episode loved the way he looks at her plus the fact hes always there for her no matter what ,both of them always are plus the fact he remembered something from her past which most guys wouldn’t says so much ,absolutly loved that scene it was filled with BL cuteness . And the line where he says “she will love the girl who gives her it “ about the purple monkey was total foreshadowing if you read spoilers about the finale ;)

As for owen well I have always thought he wasn’t good enough for her anyways and at times can be rather patronising nd comes across as thinking hes better than her and no matter what he could have at least came and talked to her about it face to face but instead he didn’t he just left ,Im not even a chase fan or A chase/brooke shipper but the fact chase came makes him slightly better than owen in my eyes as chase actually showed he at least cared, where owen what did he do ? Left town . I don’t want him to come back ,brooke deserves better than that and I mean even if he was scared of a parental role being forced upon him or whatever she never once asked him for anything nor did she presume that he would go along with it.And FYI he called her selfish how is she selfish for looking after a sick child and giving it the best posible care it could ask for not to mention shes helping angie get the treatment she needs.

So yeah it was a good podcast I was just disapointed by a lot of the content in it as I say as usually Im always like “amazing pod cast as always”but this time well it just seemed very anti but anyways… till next time hopefully next times podcast will be better .

I totally agree with kj whats with the brooke hatred girls?! I understand that you might not like the adoption storyline, i do though, but i think it will be a good chance to see how brooke deals with having a baby, and a good opportunity to get some comedy scenes in maybe. Aswell as a chance to get some brucas friendship scenes, it's like they have been living on another planet or something and don't communicate! Loved the brucas scene in this episode, luke totally made brooke fell better about herself after that convo and i loved when he said about the purple monkey "she'll love the girl who will give it to her" awww!

Am I sad Owen is gone? NO I'm freaking celebrating that random boytoy #234556 for Brooke is GONE. And not to mention he called Brooke selfish for taking care of a sick child!!?! Please never ever come back ever again. Brooke is NOT selfish... she's selfless just like Lucas Scott said. Owen doesnt know Brooke at all and should just stfu!

And what's with the hate about Brooke from you girls? She is the one who has changed the most and she has a GREAT heart and will be a great mother for the baby while it's in the country for surgery.

Wow, I am glad I listened to this podcast. I watched this episode but I really did not think it was anything special, that is until I heard your thoughts. I completely agree that Brooke's baby plot is not my favorite in OTH history and that Peyton needs more than all this pining, Hilarie Burton is an amazing actress and she deserves better storylines. I am a dedicated Leyton fan but I can't stand the way Peyton has been treated. Lucas has sent her mixed signals throughout the whole first half of the season. Plus, I am very excited to see Haley pursuing her music career (hoping this means more music from Bethany Joy Galleotti) and I am glad to see her getting back to being friends with Peyton because she was rather hypocritcal to Peyton for a while. Anyway, I wanted to thank you for allowing me to see the bright sides to what I thought was a mediocre episode of One Tree Hill.

I love the Podcast this week! Quick question, does Lindsey know about Luke proposing to Peyton 3 years ago? They haven't really explained how much she actually knows. My favorite part of the episode was when Nate pushes Jamie behind his leg when Dan gets into the elevator. Who knows where Deb was, she has dissapeared and come back several times without much of an explanation.HAHAHa...Sarah your line "Peyton you whore, Brooke you whore, Milicent your Perfect" Oh my gosh LMAO! I really hope they bring Owen back after this baby plot-line is over, I totally love that relationship. He is a good looking man.I love Brucas as friends too. I wouldn't get hopes up to much for a Peyton relationship, because in all the years of OTH she has dated 3 people (unless you count Pete). I doubt they give her another love interest. YES for Naley + Jamie! Awesome episode! Love it!

great podcast! I totally agree that this episode was much better than last week's. can't wait till next week's episode.

I also really enjoyed the episode this week, but it wasn't without a few annoyances. Loved all the Naley scenes - I've been waiting for them to return to their happy places all season! With the most adorable kid that ever walked the planet, the family had so much potential for good TV and I'm glad they're getting past everything bad that's happened.

Lucas didn't annoy me with his Debbie Downer 'tude this week and his obsession over Lindsay was kept to a minimum.

I've always been a huge Peyton fan and was really proud of the way she acted this week towards everything - namely Lucas breezing back into town unannounced. She's throwing herself more into the label and just scored a big break personally and professionally with making Haley's next album. More time to reconnect with one of her best friends (if you remember back to season 1 Peyton and Haley were much better friends than Haley and Brooke until Haley peaced out to go on tour) and a chance for Red Bedroom Records to gain some more exposure with a semi-established artist (or at least one who's already made an album).

I'm slightly annoyed with the Brooke-wants-a-baby storyline and think it's pretty unrealistic, but that's one of the reasons we watch TV. If they made a show about my 'realistic' life I'm sure the 4 viewers that would tune in would be bored to death. I think it's going to make for some good Brooke scenes and give everyone a chance to come together, because all of them rarely share scenes together anymore.

I was personally going to jump through the TV and punch Q for crushing Nate's hopes and dreams and would like him to apologize at some point because the crying scene showed that he knows that his own crushed dreams are why he was lashing out in the first place.

I don't think Skills is going to develop a drinking problem because I thought the beginning scene of him now knowing what day it was was more of a knock towards the fact that he doesn't do anything but coach the team (I don't think he has any other job?) and has lost a lot of ambition for someone who was so excited to get into college in S4. Maybe the jerky comment from Q (albeit undeserved) might kick him back into gear. Although drinking always makes for good drama so I wouldn't put it past them...

Super sad to see Owen go - or I guess hear him go would be more accurate. I liked him and Brooke together but I blame him bailing with just a phone call directly to the writer's strike. I've heard that Joe M. is shooting a movie and wasn't available to come back, hence the reason he hasn't been in any episodes since the mini-hiatus and he wasn't even in Hundred. I'm sure that's not how the show would have liked to send him off, but with actor availability there's not much you can do. I totally loved Chase coming by and still saw some sparks between them. Need a husband Brooke? Chase is your man!

Last note, I too was thrilled to see Deb! She's been sorely missed all season and can bring back some comic relief/insight into the parents' world. I'm interested to see where she's been and am sure they'll address it next episode.

And if anyone actually read to the bottom of that, kudos to you! =)